Filed by Pennsylvania Real Estate Investment Trust
                                    Subject Company: Crown American Realty Trust
                           Pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933
                                       Under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
                                     Registration Statement File No.: 333-107902


   Investor Notice

   In connection with the proposed merger between PREIT and Crown American
   Realty Trust referenced in the press release, PREIT and Crown American Realty
   Trust have filed a joint proxy statement/prospectus on Form S-4 and other
   materials with the Securities and Exchange Commission. SECURITY HOLDERS ARE
   URGED TO READ THESE MATERIALS BECAUSE THEY CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
   Investors and security holders may obtain a free copy of these materials, as
   well as other materials filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission
   concerning PREIT and Crown American Realty Trust, at the Securities and
   Exchange Commission's website at http://www.sec.gov. In addition, these
   materials and other documents filed by PREIT may be obtained for free by
   directing a request to Pennsylvania Real Estate Investment Trust at The
   Bellevue, 200 S. Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA 19102; Attn: Investor
   Relations. These materials and other documents filed by Crown American Realty
   Trust may be obtained for free by directing a request to Crown American
   Realty Trust at Pasquerilla Plaza, Johnstown, Pennsylvania 15901; Attn:
   Investor Relations.

   Transcript of Pennsylvania Real Estate Investment Trust
   Third Quarter 2003 Earnings Release Conference Call
   Wednesday, November 5, 2003 11:00 am


Operator
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   Good morning ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to your Pennsylvania Real
   Estate Investment Trust Third Quarter Earning Results Conference Call. At
   this time all lines have been placed on a listen-only mode and the floor will
   be open for questions following the presentation. It is now my pleasure to
   turn the floor over to your host, Mr. Todd Fromer. Sir, you may begin.


Todd Fromer
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   Thank you and thank you everyone for joining us for PREIT's Third Quarter
   2003 Earnings Conference Call. Before we begin, I will like everyone to know
   that this conference call contains certain forward-looking statements within
   the meaning of section 21-E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and the US
   Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements
   relate to expectations, beliefs, projections, future plans and strategies,
   anticipated events or trends and other matters that are not historical facts.
   These forward-looking statements reflect PREIT's current views about future
   events and are subject to risks, uncertainties, assumptions and changes in
   circumstances that may cause future events, achievements or results to differ
   materially from those expressed by the forward-looking statements.

   In particular, PREIT may not be able to consummate the merger with Crown, or
   if such transaction is consummated, PREIT's actual results may differ
   significantly from those expressed in any forward-looking statement. Certain
   factors that could cause PREIT not to consummate the transaction include,

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   without limitation, the satisfaction of closing conditions applicable to the
   transaction - some of which are beyond PREIT's control.

   In addition, PREIT's business is subject to uncertainties regarding the
   revenues, operating expenses, leasing activities, occupancy rates, and other
   competitive factors relating to PREIT's portfolio and the properties proposed
   to be acquired and changes in local market conditions as well as general
   economic, financial and political conditions, including the possibility of
   outbreak or escalation of war or terrorist attacks, any of which may cause
   future events, achievements or results to differ materially from those
   expressed by the forward-looking statements.

   Some or all of such factors may also affect anticipated operating income for
   2004 from Willow Grove Park and the forecasts issued today. Such forecasts
   may also be impacted by the ability of the Trust to integrate the Crown
   properties efficiently and successfully following the anticipated merger.
   PREIT does not intend to and disclaims any duty or obligation to update or
   revise any forward-looking statements or industry information set forth on
   this conference call to reflect new information, future events or otherwise.

   In connection with the proposed merger between PREIT and Crown American
   Realty Trust referenced in today's press release, PREIT and Crown American
   Realty Trust have filed a joint proxy statement/prospectus on Form S-4 and
   other materials with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Security holders
   are urged to read these materials because they contain important information.
   Investors and security holders may obtain a free copy of these materials, as
   well as other materials filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission
   concerning PREIT and Crown American Realty Trust, at the Securities and
   Exchange Commission's website at www.sec.gov.

   In addition, these materials and other documents filed by PREIT may be
   obtained for free by directing a request to Pennsylvania Real Estate
   Investment Trust at The Bellevue, 200 South Broad Street, Philadelphia,
   Pennsylvania 19102, Attention: Investor Relations. These materials and other
   documents filed by Crown American Realty Trust may be obtained for free by
   directing your request to Crown American Realty Trust at Pasquerilla Plaza,
   Johnstown, Pennsylvania 15901, Attention: Investor Relations.

   With nothing more, I would like to now turn the floor over to Mr. Ron Rubin,
   Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer of Pennsylvania Real Estate Investment
   Trust. Ron, the floor is yours.


Ronald Rubin, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
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   Thank you very much. Good morning everyone. I appreciate the fact that you
   are joining us today for our third quarter conference call. Participating in
   the call with me today are Jon Weller, President and Chief Operating Officer
   of the company; Ed Glickman, Executive VP and Chief Financial Officer of the
   Company. And in the room, although not participating in the call but may be
   available for your questions are George Rubin, President of PREIT Services;
   Dave Bryant, Treasurer of the company; and Bruce Goldman, General Counsel.

   First, I am pleased to report that our merger with Crown American Realty
   Trust is on track. The Special Meeting of Shareholders to consider and vote
   on the approval of the merger agreement is scheduled for next Tuesday,
   November 11, at 11:00, with the Crown shareholder meeting to be held at the
   same time. We anticipate closing the merger several days following the
   meeting. In August, the company completed an equity offering of approximately
   $185 million. Part of the proceeds were invested in acquisitions of our
   partnership-share at Willow Grove Park and a 6.08 acre parcel adjacent to
   Plymouth Meeting Hall, a former IKEA store.

   In addition, we were happy to declare a 5.9% increase in our quarterly
   dividend effective December the 15th, from $0.51 per share to $0.54 per
   share, which is consistent with the increase provided for under the merger

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   agreement with Crown. On an annualized basis, our dividend will increase from
   $2.04 to $2.16 per common share.

   Currently, we are in the final stages to replace our $200 million secured
   line of credit facility with a $500 million unsecured revolving line of
   credit with Wells Fargo as a lead agent. The new facility will enable PREIT
   to pursue future opportunities. For now, we look forward to the completion of
   the Crown transaction, which will position the company as a major mall owner
   with strong prospects for future growth as a result of our larger platform.
   And now, I would like to turn the call over to Jon Weller.


Jonathan B. Weller, President, Chief Operating Officer
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   Thanks Ron and good morning everyone. In the third quarter of 2003, net
   income increased to $34.9 million compared to $8.2 million in the third
   quarter of 2002. Results for the third quarter of 2003 included the $34
   million gain on the sale of our final, four multifamily properties. On a per
   share basis, net income rose to $1.79 cents from $0.49, reflecting the
   substantial gains from the multifamily sale.

   FFO for the third quarter of 2003 increased by 17.9% to $14.5 million, over
   $12.3 million in the comparable period in 2002, reflecting the impact of the
   Rouse Malls acquisition and the acquisition of the remaining 70% of Willow
   Grove Park. FFO per share is unchanged at $0.67, reflecting the dilutive
   effect of the equity offering completed in the third quarter, the termination
   of interest rates swaps to the line of credit and non-recurring cost
   primarily related to integration. Third quarter 2003 NOI increased by 65.1%,
   $31.7 million from $19.2 million in the third quarter of 2002.

   Same-store NOI for the retail portfolio decreased 2.2% or $312,000 in this
   2003 third quarter. There was $15,000 in lease termination payments in the
   same-store NOI in the third quarter of 2003 compared with $341,000 of lease
   termination payments for the third quarter of 2002.

   On a same-store basis, including anchors, our mall portfolio occupancy
   decreased to 91.1% at the end of the third quarter from 95.3%, mainly due to
   the closing of Ames at Dartmouth Mall and at Lehigh Valley Mall, the closing
   of General Cinema, and the accumulation of space to accommodate the opening
   of Holister in the fourth quarter. The company purchased the Ames lease and
   has executed a non-binding letter of intent for the sale of the pad site to
   the May Company for the addition of a 140,000 square foot Filenes' Department
   Store, which is expected to open in the fall of 2004. Same store NOI is
   impacted by both the loss of income from Ames and the amortization of the
   purchase price of the Ames' lease over its remaining life. Upon the
   completion of Filenes, revenues will be generated from new small shop GLA and
   kiosks, recovery of real estate taxes from Filenes, as well as expected rent
   growth due to the presence of the fashion anchor.

   In the third quarter, the company completed the acquisition of the 70% of
   Willow Grove Park owned by Pennsylvania State Employee Retirement System for
   $122 million, including debt of $77 million, bringing the company's ownership
   to 100%. Controlling this asset is central to the company's strategy of
   utilizing its dominant mall position in the greater Philadelphia market, for
   leasing leverage throughout the portfolio. The purchase price equated to a 9%
   cap rate on forecast to 2004 NOI. The company also acquired for approximately
   16 million, the vacant former IKEA store at Plymouth Meeting Mall. This
   parcel is important to the company's plan to add one or more new anchors to
   this well-located asset.

   In anticipation of the completion of the merger with Crown American Realty
   Trust in November, the company has spent considerable time and money on the
   integration of the organization. With about two weeks to go before closing,
   we are substantially complete in the re-organization of our retail-operating
   group to accommodate the expanded portfolio. In addition, we have added
   talent to our leasing and asset management groups, some from the Crown
   American organization and some from the outside. The effort to integrate the
   organizations has resulted in some incremental expenses, including a

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   substantial portion of the $500,000 and extraordinary expenses incurred in
   the third quarter, which are not expected to recur in 2004. We are optimistic
   that our integration effort will result in a smooth transition and will allow
   us to effectively manage and lease the expanded portfolio. I'll now turn over
   the presentation to Ed Glickman.


Edward A. Glickman, Executive Vice President, and Chief Financial Officer
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   Thanks Jon. The company ended the third quarter of 2003 with Investments in
   Real Estate of $1.31 billion, an increase of $383.6 million or 41.4% over
   2002's comparable balance of $926.4 million.

   Specifically in the retail sector, investment in real estate was up $675.3
   million to $1.29 billion, representing a 109.9% increase in retail
   investments over last year's balance of $614.6 million. The $675.3 million of
   total retail increase was comprised of $663.4 million of new investment plus
   $11.9 million in completed projects that were previously classified as
   development. The bulk of the new investment is due to the previously
   announced acquisitions of six regional malls from Rouse, and the more recent
   purchases of the six-acre parcel adjacent to Plymouth Meeting Mall and
   acquiring the 70% interest in Willow Grove Mall. The remainder of new
   investment consists of spending on a number of smaller projects including
   Magnolia Mall in Florence, South Carolina.

   The completion of PREIT's multifamily disposition strategy has caused a
   reduction in multifamily investment of $287.4 million over last year's
   balance. This figure reflects the full amount of the prior year multifamily
   investment on the balance sheet, which has, at this point, been reduced to
   zero. As a result of the above changes, the company's portfolio is now
   substantially concentrated in operating assets in the retail sector.

   On the right side of the balance sheet, the company finished the third
   quarter with Debt Capital of $739.1 million, up from $599.4 million at the
   end of the third quarter of 2002. The jump is largely attributed to the
   difference between the increase in debt required through the acquisition of
   The Rouse Company assets, the net debt increase from the refinancing of
   Dartmouth Mall and Moorestown Mall, the reductions occurring from the
   assumptions of the multifamily debt by the purchasers and the application of
   sales proceeds to reduce short-term bonds. Additionally, the bulk of the
   proceeds from the Company's 6.3 million share offering was used to reduce the
   Line of Credit Balance reserved.

   At the end of this third quarter the full amount of the company's $739.1
   million in total debt was therefore a long-term, fixed rate mortgage debt at
   a weighted average cost of 7.33% and weighted average maturity of 5 years.

   Since the third quarter of 2002, PREIT's equity market cap has increased by
   82.1% from $469 million to $854 million. The rise in equity cap was a result
   of the issuance of 7.3 million new shares and units as well as stock price
   appreciation from $25.76 to $33.45 during this period. These debt and equity
   changes have caused our debt-to-market cap to decrease from 56.1% at the end
   of the third quarter `02 to 46.4% at the end of the third quarter of '03 - a
   figure which is well below the Company's historical leverage level.

   Presently, the Company has received commitments from a lender group lead by
   Wells Fargo to replace our $200 million secured line of credit facility with
   a $500 million unsecured line of credit. Subject to documentation, it is
   PREIT's intention to close the new line of credit concurrently with the
   impending merger with Crown. Initial borrowings will be used to fund
   transaction expenses and debt restructuring costs. We believe that the
   balance sheet will be adequately positioned to handle our investment and
   operational capital needs going forward.

   For modeling purposes, we have assumed that the merger with Crown will close
   mid-way through the fourth quarter and that our proposed debt restructurings
   will occur simultaneously. It is important to note that the actual closing

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   dates for the merger and restructurings will have a significant impact on
   Funds From Operations per share for `03, as these new properties represent a
   significant portion of PREIT's pro forma portfolio. Additional variation may
   be created by the timing and magnitude of a one-time charge of $6.75 million,
   which is an expense that is spread over a decreasing number of weighted
   average shares if the closing is pushed closer to the end of the year. After
   considering the additional shares outstanding from our August offering and
   the third quarter actual results, we are revising our 2003 earnings guidance
   to a range of $2.84 to $2.96 per share for the year. Please remember that
   this estimate is derived by dividing the full year FFO by the weighted
   average share for the year, and it is not simply the sum of the individual
   four quarters' FFO per share numbers.

   At this time, we are still assuming that we will begin 2004 as a merged
   company and our new earnings guidance, giving weight to the additional shares
   is between $3.62 and $3.82 per share for the full year '04. We are happy to
   speak with you off-line to clarify any issues that you may need for your own
   forecasting assumptions. Jon and I will answer any questions that, and Ron,
   will answer any questions that you may have at this time.

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QUESTION AND ANSWER SECTION

   Operator: Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. If you do have a
   question please press the numbers "1", followed by "4" on your telephone at
   this time. Once again, the floor is open for questions; if you do have a
   question please press "1", followed by "4" on your telephone at this time.
   Please hold while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Josh
   Bederman from J.P. Morgan.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: Hi guys, couple of things here. First, I know you guys
   commented that you'd talk about guidance off-line, I was just wondering may
   be you could do it on-line, maybe a little bit of the assumptions in
   2004--specifically, internal growth? You know, sort of scope and timing of
   Crown sales, and debt premium amortization?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: Okay. The debt premium amortization is taken radically
   over the life of the individual pieces of debt.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: And can you quantify that for `04?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: Sure, we've already released, we've already released
   that number and it's our expectation that it's not going to change
   significantly from the assumptions that we used when we first, when we first
   put it out.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: Okay. And so does that mean there is none associated
   with Willow Grove or is that inclusive of the Willow Grove, the previous
   guidance?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: No, there is a small amount associated with Willow
   Grove but nothing like the amount of...of debt amortization.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: So it is substantially nothing. Okay and what are the
   assumptions on internal growth?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: We didn't use one underlying assumption on the whole
   company we actually went through every space at every mall.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: Okay.

   [A - Edward Glickman]: And put together an analysis in the form of ARGUS runs
   on every property that we used to build our model. So, we, you know, kind of
   each space, first looked at individually and its prospects for next year and
   it is built-in to our going-forward model of the Company. So, it should run a
   number about 3% or 4% or whatever, we definitely took an incremental look at
   each particular space. And it wasn't my intention not to discuss this
   on-line, it was my intention if anybody had an issue with the weighted
   average share calculation, this is the last time to take those questions.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: Okay, and then last thing on that, have you modeled in
   any sales with respect to your Crown assets and if so, what's the scope and
   timing?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: There is nothing in the model for sales with Crown
   assets, acquisitions, or any extraordinary items. We, what we did to put this
   out as the base-case is round the Company forward based on the, summation of
   the ARGUS runs and capital structure as we now know it for the company. We
   didn't put any speculative acquisitions, dispositions into the model, so
   that, that is the base-case.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: Okay. And I think that is pretty much it, thanks.

   Operator: Our next question comes from David Shulman from Lehman Brothers.

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   [Q - David Shulman]: Yeah, hi. First question is, it looks like Simon is
   buying, is going to take control over Kravco, and Kravco is the managing
   partner at Lehigh Mall.

   [A - Ronald Rubin]: Correct.

   [Q - David Shulman]: What do you think the implication of that is going to be
   going forward?

   [A - Ronald Rubin]: We don't know Dave. This is Ron. At this point, we
   really, look anything we say would be speculation. We agree with you that the
   Simon deal, from everything we hear, looks like it's going to happen, but we
   don't know how much of Kravco Simon is going to own, and we don't know how it
   is going to affect our interest in Lehigh Valley, at this point.

   [Q - David Shulman]: Do you, do you think it's for better or for worse?

   [A - Ronald Rubin]: I think it's hard to say. I don't think it's worse. You
   know, I don't think it's worse having Simon in there, but it's hard to say at
   this point, until the smoke clears, exactly what it is going to mean to us,
   to the Company.

   [Q - David Shulman]: Okay, thank you.

   Operator: Our next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb from Lehman
   Brothers.

   [Q - Alexander Goldfarb]: Hi, good morning. Just want to go back to the debt
   amortization. I believe you had said that you expect it to be very similar to
   what was announced back in May. But seeing that the treasury has moved pretty
   significantly from mid 3's to mid 4's. That's still a fair statement?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: It is because when we modeled it originally we left a
   little room in not knowing, knowing that we had six to months go. So, we did
   not want price all the debt at the bottom of the market, what most people
   thought was the bottom of the market.

   [Q - Alexander Goldfarb]: Okay, okay that's fair. And can you just go, what
   and I think you had mentioned or highlighted... or touched on it. The, what
   are your assumptions for the weighted average share count for the fourth
   quarter? Because I think next year looks like it just going to be about 39,
   using round numbers. But for the fourth quarter, what is your expectation,
   what is your guidance predicated on?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: Yeah, I would rather go through the weighted average
   shares off-line.

   [Q - Alexander Goldfarb]: Okay, then I'll follow up off-line. And with the
   difference in the credit lines going from secured to unsecured, two things;
   one is, is there, what is the rate difference between those? And two is, what
   is the status with the rating agencies?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: Okay, there is no status yet with the rating agencies
   because we have not received formal notification from them of, you know, the
   outcome of their review of the company. However, I can tell you that we have
   met with them on a number of different occasions. We have had actually Fitch,
   S&P and Moody's in here looking at the company but I have not yet received
   any formal indication. I'm sorry, what was the first part of your...?

   [Q - Alexander Goldfarb]: Just the rate difference between the old,
   unsecured, I mean, secured and the new unsecured line?

   [A - Edward Glickman]: At this point, we have not completed the line of
   credit process. The only thing that we had permission from our lender to
   release was the fact that we have reached the $500 million mark in
   commitment. But we're not in a position yet to release any of the details on

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   the transaction. It has not closed and it has, you know, the lenders have not
   agreed to the documentation yet. So, it's too early.

   [Q - Alexander Goldfarb]: Okay, and the Filenes', the pad sale. You'll be
   including that in FFO, I am presuming?

   [A - Jonathan Weller]: Alex, Jon. I don't think the, the sale, I mean our
   policy generally is for sales of pads, out-parcels, etcetera, to not include
   those, so that income in FFO, in other words it is treated like a sale of
   department property, or shopping center, or whatever. So, no, that income
   will not be in their book. But what will be included in FFO, as a result of
   the Filene's transaction, is any recovery that we obtain from Filenes, from
   cash, from real estate taxes and otherwise. Any additional rent from, you
   know, newly created GLA, there may be additional CAM recovery related to the
   cost associated with creating or expanding the mall, and of course, we think
   that Filene's will give us, you know, much better negotiating leverage with
   our tenants, to increase rent as the leases come up, because they are going
   to generate a lot more sales than Ames generated.

   [Q - Alexander Goldfarb]: Okay and just the final question. The 2.5 million
   share incentive plan, can you just walk us through this and just explain,
   because it seems rather large but may be it is consistent with other
   companies, if you could just say what it was, what sort of the peer group was
   and how it works?

   [A - Jonathan Weller]: Alex, your question is, how did we arrive at that
   number?

   [Q - Alexander Goldfarb]: Right. It just seems like a large number based on
   the share count but maybe it vests over a number of years so, it doesn't
   seem?

   [A Jonathan Weller]: We looked at and I don't have the detailed numbers in
   front of me and I will be happy to go over with you in detail later, but we
   looked at, obviously we looked at whatever was outstanding. We looked at the
   new share count of the company, which you, I think, correctly stated was, I
   think the share count is about 35 million and there is some balance up to 39
   million is OP in it. And, we look at a general rule of thumb based on advice
   we had gotten from outside consultants that a plan of up to 10% of the
   outstanding shares was common in the industry. So, if approximately a million
   shares are outstanding through, you know, unexercised options or restricted
   shares and so on and, you know, the difference is up to 2.5 million, that is
   where we came up with that number. It's obviously not our intention to issue
   all of that, but as soon as, if the plan is approved, but to have a number of
   shares for incent-compensation over a multiyear period available for
   allocation to members of the company and trustees. I'd also point out to you
   that, that I believe, Bruce help me here, how many shares are subject to
   Crown options, about 1.4 million or thousand, which equates to approximately
   500,000 PREIT shares that, the options that are currently held by Crown
   management will go against that figure when they are reissued as PREIT
   options at the closing.

   [Q - Alexander Goldfarb]: Okay. Thank you.

   Operator: Once again, the floor is open for questions. If you do have a
   question, please press the numbers "1", followed by "4" on your telephone at
   this time. Our next question comes from Josh Bederman - JP Morgan.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: Hi guys. Sorry, just a quick follow-up question, you
   mentioned a couple of things with respect to restructuring, hiring service
   staff, and stuff. It looks like G&A in this quarter exclusive of this swap
   charge is about $7 million, is that right, is that a good run-rate, or should
   we expect it to go up?

   [A - Ed Glickman]: I mean, it's our expectation that G&A will go up, and it
   will go up more in a transitional period as we're operating in two sites for
   the next six months, lets say, at some level of operations, and I think that

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   you should expect us to hit a run-rate that would be level probably in the
   third quarter of next year.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: And, and, what would that be?

   [A - Ed Glickman]: You know, we are in the middle of budgeting it at the
   time, as we speak, and I am not prepared to give you a number on that at the
   moment.

   [Q - Joshua Bederman]: Okay.

   Operator: Our next question comes from David Shulman, Lehman Brothers.

   [Q - David Shulman]: Yes, I have a follow-up, Ed, can you answer my question?
   If there is no real change in debt amortization premium, it looks like your
   guidance is a little bit lower than what you gave when you announced the
   merger. Is that, am I right on that? In going over all the books and doing
   the ARGUS runs, you are little bit lower than where you were last spring, for
   '04?

   [A - Ed Glickman]: Yes, we are little bit lower than we were.

   [Q - David Shulman]: And what caused that?

   [A - Ed Glickman]: Well, it was a couple of things. One is, we got a little
   tighter guidance on how we were going to handle some of the amortization of,
   not so much for debt premium, but the cost surrounding some of the debt and
   that, you know, instead of capitalizing it into the merger would be, it would
   be associated with the individual pieces of debt. And we also have had some
   transitional G&A expenses, let's say, with more people operating in Johnstown
   and less people coming over to PREIT for a period of time. So, I think that,
   you know, with a merger as large as this we have been coming to grips with
   the some of the interim issues related to putting the company together. What
   is not in the, and also, Jon mentioned the fees related to the new line of
   credit may increase the size of the other line of credit, substantially, from
   where we thought we were going to originally take it. Primarily, that was a
   function of the fact that, our transaction was received successfully. We were
   presented with the opportunity and a lot of demand out there on a line of
   credit and we thought given where we were in the market cycle, that this was
   a good time to get that availability, but it comes at a cost, in terms of
   paying for it.

   [Q - David Shulman]: And this is going to show up as interest expense, right?
   The fee for the line, right?

   [A - Ed Glickman]: Yes, the fees for the line are an expense. And, so we
   thought it was worth it because who knows what the credit market is going to
   be like next year and at the moment, we were met with a very positive
   reception to our credit proposal which is really a major evolutionary change
   for the company to become an unsecured borrower without a pool of properties.

   [Q - David Shulman]: And did the thinking come from when you did the
   space-by-space analysis with ARGUS on the operating side did any number, did
   numbers come down because of that as well?

   [A - Ed Glickman]: No, to tell you, to tell you...

   [Q - David Shulman]: Or the numbers went up because of that...?

   [A - Ed Glickman]: No, it wasn't... The drivers that change the number have
   very little to do with the core operation for the company.

   [Q - David Shulman]: Okay.

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   [A - Ed Glickman]: We are, you know, we're probably three to four months from
   being in a position where we'll redo all the ARGUS numbers, have some more
   definitive prospects for different spaces, etcetera, etcetera, we are in the
   very early stages of that and we have not - re-budgeted, re-calculated, all
   the ARGUS work we did over the summer. So, as I said, this is a base-case,
   the changes that have occurred have mostly been the structural changes of
   ironing out how the merger was going to occur, timing, etcetera, and did not
   reflect a fundamental re-appraisal of the operations of the company.

   [Q - David Shulman]: Okay, thanks a lot.

   [A - Ed Glickman]: Okay.

   Operator: Okay gentlemen, there appear to be no further questions at this
   time.


Ronald Rubin, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
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   If there are no further questions at this time, I want to thank everyone who
   participated on this call. We are, we're obviously very excited and the many
   people here are very tired as there has been a lot of activity in the company
   over the past few months. 2003 has been a very significant year for this
   company and we are looking forward to the closing of the Crown transaction
   some time in the next week to ten days. And so we're available for your
   questions even though you're not on the call, you can feel free to call, call
   us directly with any questions that you may have and I want to thank you all
   again for your participation.


Operator
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   Thank you. This does conclude this morning's presentation. Please disconnect
   your lines and have a great day.



















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