RLI’s Q2 Earnings Call: Our Top 5 Analyst Questions

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RLI’s second quarter results reflected disciplined underwriting and a focus on long-term profitability, even as top-line growth was limited by challenging conditions in the commercial property market. Management highlighted the company’s ability to deliver underwriting profitability across all segments despite heightened competition and softening rates in property lines. CEO Craig Kliethermes emphasized that RLI’s approach centers on “pulling back where needed and leaning into products where the risk return is in balance.” Growth in Casualty and Surety segments offset a decline in Property, while investment income also contributed to quarterly results. The company’s willingness to prioritize profitability over scale was a central theme throughout the call.

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RLI (RLI) Q2 CY2025 Highlights:

  • Revenue: $499.8 million vs analyst estimates of $447.6 million (20% year-on-year growth, 11.7% beat)
  • Adjusted EPS: $0.84 vs analyst estimates of $0.78 (7.3% beat)
  • Operating Margin: 32%, up from 25.8% in the same quarter last year
  • Market Capitalization: $6.22 billion

While we enjoy listening to the management's commentary, our favorite part of earnings calls are the analyst questions. Those are unscripted and can often highlight topics that management teams would rather avoid or topics where the answer is complicated. Here is what has caught our attention.

Our Top 5 Analyst Questions RLI’s Q2 Earnings Call

  • Charles Gregory Peters (Raymond James) asked about acquisition cost pressures across Property and Casualty. CFO Todd Bryant explained that higher acquisition costs stemmed from commission rate pressure, technology investments, and a mix shift in Surety, while COO Jen Klobnak cited increased reinsurance purchases as a factor moving the expense ratio higher.
  • Peters (Raymond James) also questioned where pricing pressure was most acute by distribution channel. Klobnak responded that competition was highest in E&S Property due to roughly 20 new entrants in the past two years, impacting rates regardless of distribution channel.
  • Peters (Raymond James) followed up on the impact of rate decreases on contingent commissions. Klobnak clarified that only a small portion of RLI’s portfolio, such as its architects and engineers segment and certain D&O lines, was seeing rate declines, with most business still experiencing flat or positive rates.
  • Matthew John Carletti (Citizens) inquired about loss cost trends and the outlook for rate adequacy in Casualty, especially transportation. CEO Craig Kliethermes said underwriters are assuming double-digit loss cost inflation and remain willing to walk away from unprofitable accounts, with a deliberate focus on risk selection.
  • Meyer Shields (KBW) asked about the impact of mix shift and reinsurance in Surety. Klobnak and Bryant pointed to increased reinsurance expenses and investments in digital platforms but emphasized that the overall mix has shifted away from energy, with a focus on transactional and solar-related business.

Catalysts in Upcoming Quarters

In the coming quarters, the StockStory team will be watching (1) whether RLI’s rate discipline and selective underwriting in Property stabilize top-line performance despite market softening, (2) the effectiveness of digital investments in improving underwriting and customer service, and (3) sustained profitability in Casualty and Surety as competition and legal trends evolve. Progress on regulatory changes and market share in growth niches will also be key signposts for future results.

RLI currently trades at $67.78, down from $69.30 just before the earnings. At this price, is it a buy or sell? The answer lies in our full research report (it’s free).

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